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With today’s Action Comics #863, part of that “future” has been previewed in a teaser image that confirms a team-up fans have been speculating about – writer Geoff Johns and artist George Perez will unite to tell the story of a multiverse-spanning 31st century battle in Final Crisis: Legion of 3 Worlds beginning in August.
One of the two promised DC mini-series that will tie directly into Final Crisis, the Legion of 3 Worlds story will pull together the characters from three teams that have called themselves Legion of Super-Heroes during DC’s publishing history. And if we go by the teaser image, a slew of Perez-drawn Legion members will be fighting alongside Superman against a villainous threat in the future that will include a couple threats from the present as well – Superman-Prime and… is that Lex Luthor?
After wrapping up the Sinestro Corps War just a few months ago, it hasn’t taken Johns long to start writing another epic storyline, this one in five oversized issues that will tie into the Final Crisis story writer Grant Morrison is telling with artist J.G. Jones this summer. And it won’t surprise readers of Johns’ monthly comics that these issues will feature members of the original Legion, which Johns helped re-introduce to the DCU last year in a crossover between his Justice Society of America title with Justice League of America, then used in the current Action Comics story.
But three Legions? All together and all part of the DCU? What happened to the reboots where one Legion replaced the other? And for those readers who’ve never read any Legion stories, what do they have to know to understand this series? And what is Lex Luthor doing in that picture? Newsarama talked to Geoff Johns in a two-part interview to find out the answers to these questions and more…
Newsarama: Let's just start up front and say what people are probably thinking, Geoff. Three Legions! When someone starts reading Final Crisis: Legion of 3 Worlds, is there anything they have to read first? Maybe they should read your Action Comics story that included the Legion of Super-Heroes? Or study up on Legion history?
Geoff Johns: If you want, sure, but you don't have to know anything before you read it. This is Superman and the Legion of Super-Heroes vs. Superboy-Prime and the Legion of Super-Villains. Things explode from there, but I’m approaching it like the current Action Comics storyline: You didn't have to read The Lightning Saga before reading that story, and the same kind of thing's true here. So I highly suggest Gary [Frank] and my wonderful Action Comics [laughs], for anyone who hasn't picked it up yet. But no, you don't have to read anything to pick up and understand Legion of 3 Worlds.
NRAMA: But Geoff, you're going to have all three Legions in this story? One Legion sounds overwhelming enough to a new Legion reader, but three??
GJ: But there's a focus on a group of characters. Certain characters will really get the spotlight. A lot of other characters will be in the background. That's what George does. When you have these big epics and you have dozens and dozens of characters, it can get overwhelming, but there's a focus on a group of characters that have their goals and missions that really represent to me the heart of the Legion. And those characters will be getting most of the attention. But everybody will be in there. Just about everybody.
It's like the Sinestro Corps had a lot going on, but it was focused.
NRAMA: So, just like it didn't matter if you knew the name of every Green Lantern and Sinestro Corps member during Sinestro Corps War, you don't need to know anything about the Legion going into this – is that what you're saying?
GJ: If you do, cool, if not, if you’re a DC fan you’ll enjoy this.
NRAMA: Can you tell us the idea behind the story?
GJ: Again, it's Superboy-Prime teamed up with the Legion of Super-Villains, and he sets out to destroy Superman and the Legion of Super-Heroes. But this is not just a Legion of Super-Heroes story. This is the DC Universe in the 31st century. This is the Crisis of the 31st Century. George and I are doing a huge DC epic from the point of view of the 31st century. All the main heroes throughout the DC Universe in the 31st century are there.
So picture it this way: As the Final Crisis rages here, the Final Crisis rages there.
NRAMA: So these five issues – do they have a direct tie-in to Final Crisis?
GJ: There is a tie-in that Grant and I have .... yes. But like you could read Green Lantern and Green Lantern Corps separately during Sinestro Corps, you can read Final Crisis and Final Crisis: Legion of 3 Worlds completely separate. Or you can read them both.
During Final Crisis, I'm basically Robin to Grant's Batman. I'll be there to help facilitate and support and hopefully energize my books in line with his.
NRAMA: If you're Robin, which costume are you wearing?
GJ: Which costume? [laughs] The Earth-2 Robin costume, 'cause that one's bad-ass.
NRAMA: [laughs] So let's go back to the beginning of this idea of three Legions together. Has this been in the works for awhile? Even before you did The Lightning Saga, was the eventual goal for you to write a story about all three Legions?
GJ: The project came out of that. I really love Legion and I had planned to do something with them in Action Comics after The Lightning Saga to get them back into Superman's lore, because I think that's where they're strongest. And from that, Legion of 3 Worlds sparked. The story grew out of that, and at the same time, George was telling Dan that he wanted to do a Legion story, so it all just came together. And with what Grant was doing in Final Crisis, it all just clicked.
When things click and they just kind of grow out of what you're doing, that's when I think the magic happens. That's when I think you really have everybody with a passionate drive, giving their all to these characters we know and love.
NRAMA: What's it been like, working with George Perez?
GJ: The best thing about working with George is all the stuff he brings to it. Usually, I have to meticulously list every freaking detail and research it and scan it and put it all in there, just to make sure it's done right when I have something this big. But with George, I put all that stuff in there, but he goes another step beyond. The opening sequence is just insane. It's a Superman fan's dream. And every time I get a page, I just pour over it. The amount of detail he's putting in there, the amount of extra work, the amount of things he's adding I'm like, "There is a god. His name is George Perez." But it's all related to story. He's really thinking on story -- what's important to the characters and their emotional states, their conflicts, their relationships. He's just a brilliant storyteller.
NRAMA: OK, let's go back here for a second. When The Lightning Saga was written, you knew this Legion of 3 Worlds story would eventually be told, right?
GJ: Yeah. There was actually a panel in Justice Society #6 that showed the Legions of all three worlds, but we cut it out because we didn't want to show the Legions together until we got to this project.
It was a flashback to the first time the three Legions met, and it was cut because we started planning on doing this. In my mind, they had met a long time ago as really young kids, once, and now they were going to have a second adventure together. So it was an adventure no one ever saw, but we removed the panel because we wanted to show those three Legions together for the first time in the actual Legion of 3 Worlds series.
NRAMA: That was leaked, wasn't it? I saw that original page somewhere online.
GJ: I think it was. I think it was on Dale's original page – the one that was sold. And that's fine. It's no big deal. Dale put so much energy into that so it’s nice people have seen it here and there.
NRAMA: Well, we've seen the teaser image by George Perez that’s in the back of Action Comics this week. And Brainiac 5 is holding that lightning rod.
GJ: Oh yeah. What lightning rod was that? [laughs]
NRAMA: [laughs] The one from the end of The Lightning Saga.
GJ: Ooooooh! Right! I forgot we had that loose end to tie up. Oops. [laughs]
NRAMA: So... that little face we saw in the lightning rod at the end of Lightning Saga wasn't just a printing error, was it?
GJ: [laughs] That lightning rod is definitely a point we'll deal with. It's the one loose end that was purposely left for this series.
NRAMA: So that specifically will be dealt with in this series, and we'll find out who or what is housed within.
GJ: Absolutely. And why the Legion has it.
NRAMA: You mentioned Superman-Prime, one of the central characters in this image, is going to play a part in this story – which confirms what you told Newsarama readers last year: That you’re writing the character again. Wait, you called him Superboy-Prime earlier in the interview. Is he Superman-Prime or Superboy-Prime now?
GJ: I always call him Superboy-Prime to make him mad.
NRAMA: Are you allowed to call him Superboy-Prime?
GJ: Well, he doesn't like being called that, so I fear for my life when I call him Superboy-Prime. [laughs] But, yeah, he’s Superman-Prime.
NRAMA: But this has to be a thrill for you, because you really like that character, don't you?
GJ: Yeah. I mean, I've had an arc for him: Infinite Crisis was the first piece, and Sinestro Corps was the second. He's my through-line here. So he's coming up again in Final Crisis: Legion of 3 Worlds. He's one of my favorite characters to write, because he has so many different sides to him. He's much more complex than some people give him credit for.
NRAMA: But I think you've confirmed before that he's kind of a play on... well, I don't want to use that "F" word that some people get so upset about...
GJ: I'm a huge fanboy! I mean, I read comics. I love all this stuff.
NRAMA: But he's a play on those with negative attitudes about everything related to comics, right? People who think they can do it all better or that their version of this world is so much better.
GJ: You see what you want to see. To me, he's delusional; he thinks everything he says and does is right. But he's such a fun, wonderful, creepy character. And he's scary, horrifying, bloodthirsty. At the same time, you kind of understand where he's coming from. He's definitely going to be going through a different type of journey in this series – one I really don't think people are going to expect. He's a fully realized character in my mind; he's not just a one-note, "hey this is just a gag."
It was Matt Singer at the Village Voice that first cracked into Superboy-Prime. I have to give him props for that.
NRAMA: For the folks among our readers who are amateur Legion historians, when does this story take place in each Legion's history?
GJ: It's now. Right now for everybody. It's as current as the main book itself.
NRAMA: So the very latest that we've seen any of these Legions – that’s when this takes place?
GJ: Yep.
NRAMA: Everything in their history – is it all canon now?
GJ: Yeah.
NRAMA: So, nothing's been wiped away by any crisis or time-altering event?
GJ: We find out really where all those "wiping aways" and the various plans throughout the universe and history were orchestrated – like when Superboy was found to be an imposter right after the first Crisis, and then when they were wiped away in Zero Hour – there’s a connection to all that stuff. Someone's been screwing with the Legion for a very long time.
NRAMA: In this teaser image, it looks like this is going to involve Time Trapper in a very big way because he's the biggest character on that page.
GJ: Yep.
NRAMA: So... could he be the one screwing with things?
GJ: Could be. [laughs]
NRAMA: [laughs] Could be?
GJ: I mean, it's most obvious. We'll be exploring Time Trapper for anyone who doesn't know him. But for anyone who does, you know he's got a history of screwing with the Legion. There have been stories about him, and I'll get into that in due time. But you really don't need to know anything about him going in.
NRAMA: The original Legion from the Action Comics story is the focus of this teaser image. But also in this background of this picture, we see XS up there to the left, a character from the Zero Hour Legion, which is pretty exciting for people because we haven't seen her in awhile.
GJ: Well, I think that's the wonderful thing about that Legion. I look at the Zero Hour Legion and there's a truly brilliant array of characters Mark and Tom created, like Gates, XS and Kinetix. They created a lot of new characters in that run. And so a lot of those characters will be used.
NRAMA: Also in this teaser image is Lex Luthor. You can't tell us anything about why he's there in a different time? Because you know, he's not usually in the 31st century.
GJ: [laughs] No, he's not.
NRAMA: Of course, with the operative word being time, we've got to assume that's got something to do with Time Trapper being in this image, right?
GJ: Who knows? [laughs] There are a lot of pieces of the puzzle in that image there.
NRAMA: There's even a crumbling Green Lantern battery – looks like the Central Battery. Is this related to the hints you dropped last time we talked about Green Lantern, where you said there is no Green Lantern Corps in the 31st century? Will we find out more about that?
GJ: Yes. Again, this is not just a Legion of Super-Heroes story. This is a DC Universe in the 31st Century story.
NRAMA: And when you dropped the name Rond Vidar during our last interview, you got Legion fans pretty excited.
GJ: Rond Vidar is the last Green Lantern. Well, second to last.
NRAMA: Second to last?
GJ: Second to last Green Lantern.
NRAMA: Also in that interview, you wouldn't tell me who that other Green Lantern was, but you said we'd find out in some upcoming story. Is this the story where we'll find out about it?
GJ: You will find out who the other last Green Lantern is. Who those two guys are. You'll find out what happened to everybody. You'll find out lots of stuff.
This story is epic in its scope. It goes across the universe, all across Earth, across time and space. This is definitely one of the hardest stories I've tackled yet, but I'm ready for it.
NRAMA: Why hard? Do you think it's even harder than writing Infinite Crisis?
GJ: In a different way. With Crisis there was so much coordination and things that you had to set up for other books and carry through from other books, so it was difficult.
But this is difficult because it's the Legion. It's not Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. It's the Legion of Super-Heroes. So my goal is to have people cheering for these characters. Some people don't know the Legion yet. Some people don't see the value in the Legion yet. My goal is to have them cheering for them by the end of this. And if you already do know the Legion, you're going to cheer louder.
Check back tomorrow for part 2 of our interview with Geoff Johns about Final Crisis: Legion of 3 Worlds, where we talk more about the Legion, why he thinks they're so important to the DCU, how DC Universe #0 ties into this series, and what Geoff thinks about writing an ongoing Superman and the Legion of Super-Heroes comic.
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