#1 ATENCION: Ciber-fraude (Capitulo 1: "Cazabobos cazado")

Primero lo primero: Este es un post sobre algo que se llama "Scam baiting" ---> http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scam_baiting. Tiene bastante contenido de ingles aun sin traducir. Todo se trata de joder a un supuesto vendedor que vive en reino unido, que engaña a la gente haciendole creer que es un vendedor honesto. Hay mucha de esta gente dando vuelta en internet, y lamentablemente muuuy poco se puede hacer, por lo que me dio ganas de hacer algo contra eso y el "baiting" era lo unico que tenia a mi alcance.
Publico aca porque quiero mostrar como persuaden estos falsos vendedores y asi de alguna forma ayudar a prevenir tambien que nadie caiga en estas trampas,
Pueden ustedes tambien mandarle mail y ver que responden, probar, joderlos, haceles perder el tiempo.
Luego les aclaro que al post lo voy a arreglar, traducir y explicar todo con el tiempo, porque hoy no tengo mucho.
Bueh, la historia comienza un día que veo la propaganda de una pagina muy trucha llamada www.quebarato.com.ar, entre mas que nada por el loro que decia que era muy barato. Y realmente fue asi, cuando empeze a navegar vi precios extremadamente barato lo que me llamo la atención,
http://www.quebarato.com.ar/busqueda...+3gs&nitens=16
entonces en alguna publicacion pregunte porque tan barato, porque no daban bien la descripcion, si el precio es en dolares o euros o pesos, puse mi mail entonces asi comenzo esto:
Hola Julián,
Gracias por su respuesta sobre el iPhone de Apple 3GS 2009 de 16 GB, se trata de nuevo sellado en su caja de fábrica con 1 año de garantía internacional y 60 días política de retorno.
vendemos a razón de $ 350usd, mientras que los costos de envío 50USD, vendemos en dólares estado unido, mientras que también significa convertir a cualquier moneda del país.
Estamos situados en Reino Unido
Enviamos a través de los servicios de courrier DHL sólo 48 horas a su puerta y en contacto con usted en 10 minutos con el número de seguimiento para que confirme sus artículos en línea en Aceptar.
método de pago, aceptamos el pago a través de Western Union, gramo de dinero y transferencia de banco a banco.
amabilidad de volver a nosotros con los siguientes datos como ........
;............ Dirección de envío
pedido completo ;..................
número de teléfono ;.............
código postal ;.....................
;.................. país
de manera que podamos proceder a su envío inmediato en Aceptar.
Nota: una orden es un problema para la entrega segura y Funda de transacción de cualquier demurage su dinero será devuelto de nuevo a usted.
cantidad total en dólares es de $ 400usd
Esperamos su respuesta lo antes posible
Gracias
MAXWELL
A lo que yo contesto en ingles porque el era de Reino unido:Gracias por su respuesta sobre el iPhone de Apple 3GS 2009 de 16 GB, se trata de nuevo sellado en su caja de fábrica con 1 año de garantía internacional y 60 días política de retorno.
vendemos a razón de $ 350usd, mientras que los costos de envío 50USD, vendemos en dólares estado unido, mientras que también significa convertir a cualquier moneda del país.
Estamos situados en Reino Unido
Enviamos a través de los servicios de courrier DHL sólo 48 horas a su puerta y en contacto con usted en 10 minutos con el número de seguimiento para que confirme sus artículos en línea en Aceptar.
método de pago, aceptamos el pago a través de Western Union, gramo de dinero y transferencia de banco a banco.
amabilidad de volver a nosotros con los siguientes datos como ........
;............ Dirección de envío
pedido completo ;..................
número de teléfono ;.............
código postal ;.....................
;.................. país
de manera que podamos proceder a su envío inmediato en Aceptar.
Nota: una orden es un problema para la entrega segura y Funda de transacción de cualquier demurage su dinero será devuelto de nuevo a usted.
cantidad total en dólares es de $ 400usd
Esperamos su respuesta lo antes posible
Gracias
MAXWELL
Oh my god, that was a very fast response!! i like that.
Ok, im interested in a iphone 32gb if is possible, if not 16gb is ok.
And about the payment method: This is not the first time i buy something in another country, and so, i know what is to deposit in one account and don't receive nothing or receive a potato in the box... So, it would be good for both if you could provide me with some information about MAXWELL such as web pages, etc , or some references about previous selling's that you made. Then i would give you the information in order to prepare the payments, and consummate the transaction.
Thanks for your response and sorry for my english (my native language is spanish).
Julian.
Y el me contesta Ok, im interested in a iphone 32gb if is possible, if not 16gb is ok.
And about the payment method: This is not the first time i buy something in another country, and so, i know what is to deposit in one account and don't receive nothing or receive a potato in the box... So, it would be good for both if you could provide me with some information about MAXWELL such as web pages, etc , or some references about previous selling's that you made. Then i would give you the information in order to prepare the payments, and consummate the transaction.
Thanks for your response and sorry for my english (my native language is spanish).
Julian.
Hello Thanks for your response concerning the apple iphone , we have the 32gb ok,
i want you to know that we are legit company and we do not engage in fruad and will never do anything that will spoil our image nor that of the company ok.
we stand by our word like i told you , and we are assuring you 100% that once you make the payment you will surely get the iphone at your door step 48hrs after the confirmation of your payment ok..
Here is our last shipment of 10 iphone 32gb to united state of america
here is the tracking number for you to confirmed that we are legti company ok.
www.ups.com tracking number 1Z411E0W359093088 you can track it and confirm your self that once you make the payment for the item you will surely get them at your door step ok.
xoncerning our webpage is still underupgrading here is it www.Nobleelectronicsltd.uk.tc
so do not be afriad you are buying from the right company and we are given 100% gurantee that you will surely get the items because we want to establish along term business relationship with you so that you can link us to your friend
kindly get back to us with your shpping address and telephone number as soon as possible including your full order.
Regard
Maxwell
Primero que esa pagina a la que me mando es de un servidor que ofrece el hospedaje gratuito a su web y su web es armada con el plan gratuito que a cambio de dejarnos usar el espacio nos obligan a usar en el caso, publicidades de la pagina. El servidor es este:http://www.joynic.com/i want you to know that we are legit company and we do not engage in fruad and will never do anything that will spoil our image nor that of the company ok.
we stand by our word like i told you , and we are assuring you 100% that once you make the payment you will surely get the iphone at your door step 48hrs after the confirmation of your payment ok..
Here is our last shipment of 10 iphone 32gb to united state of america
here is the tracking number for you to confirmed that we are legti company ok.
www.ups.com tracking number 1Z411E0W359093088 you can track it and confirm your self that once you make the payment for the item you will surely get them at your door step ok.
xoncerning our webpage is still underupgrading here is it www.Nobleelectronicsltd.uk.tc
so do not be afriad you are buying from the right company and we are given 100% gurantee that you will surely get the items because we want to establish along term business relationship with you so that you can link us to your friend
kindly get back to us with your shpping address and telephone number as soon as possible including your full order.
Regard
Maxwell
Esta pagina es entonces armada facilmente con un template y dos o tres fotos ademas de que no pagaron nada, esto lo pueden comprobar entrando a la pagina y mirando las publicidades que tienen, que son ajenas a la compañía.
Luego los numeros de transaccion de merca nada dicen quien los envia, no dicen nada de la empresa, y no sabemos el contenido ni nada, ademas de que ese envio fue de hace 4 meses atras.
A eso entonces yo contesto:
In couple of days i will make the order if i don't found a better offer (oferta) , close to me as i can see the product and buy it if the price is ok... the iphone is not for me, im a mandatary so this buy need to be all ok.
All the information provided is right except for some minor details like the date of the deliver, sorry for this but i hope you understand me.
I recommend you to some people, i very like the quality of your service.
Hasta pronto.
Julian.
Y el contesta insistiendo y esquivando: All the information provided is right except for some minor details like the date of the deliver, sorry for this but i hope you understand me.
I recommend you to some people, i very like the quality of your service.
Hasta pronto.
Julian.
Hello Julian,
thanks for your response , i really appreciate your effort and understanding like i told you that we are legit company and we do not practice fraudulent or any thing that will tarnish or spoil the image of the company we do not do it .
if we tell you your items will be ship today , it must be today because we are a man of our word.
A company with integrity and loyal to their costumer, so can you kindly tell us how long you will get back to us because we are so worry and will like to make you our friend i want you to tell people about us by you making and order so that we ship in just 2 days you will be 100% confident to tell people about us OK..
kindly get back to us as soon as possible with the following details such
Full Shipping Details;...................
Full Name;.............................
Country ;...........................
State;...........................
zipcode;........................
Telephone number;....................
so that with this details we can start packaging and labeling of the items before we proceed with the shipment OK..
Thanks
Maxwell
Yo pregunto entonces si podia pagar con paypal http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/PayPal porque es un metodo seguro de pago a travez de internet, o sea con paypal tengo una proteccion a la compra en caso de fraude tengo un seguro, no solo eso sino que tambien si compraria por ebay tendria un "deposito en garantia" una vez que yo apruebe la transaccion se libera el pago al vendedor, respecto a esto queria ver que me contestaba el:
finally i need to know that the "iphone 3gS" (32gb) that you are offering is the original iphone from apple, and is not an imitation of it.
Then, you work with paypal?
Y el me responde algo que no me llamo la atencion: Then, you work with paypal?
Hello julain,
like i told you before that all our phones are original brand new unlocked phone ok, we do not sell refurblish phone ok.
we
the iphone are not imitation ok, they come brand new unlocked sealed in its factory box.
concerning the payment term we accept payment via western union or money gram so if you know you really want to buy from us then you kindly make the payment via western union or money gram
we are assuring you 100% gurantee that once you make the payment you will surely get the phone at your door step ok.
Kindly get back to us as soon as possible
Thanks
Maxwell Bell
Recuerden que western union y money gram no son servicios para comprar por internet, es para transferir dinero y no pueden comprobar la identidad de las partes. Es mas el mismo Western Union dice en su pagina que no usen el servicio para comprar por internetlike i told you before that all our phones are original brand new unlocked phone ok, we do not sell refurblish phone ok.
we
the iphone are not imitation ok, they come brand new unlocked sealed in its factory box.
concerning the payment term we accept payment via western union or money gram so if you know you really want to buy from us then you kindly make the payment via western union or money gram
we are assuring you 100% gurantee that once you make the payment you will surely get the phone at your door step ok.
Kindly get back to us as soon as possible
Thanks
Maxwell Bell
http://www.westernunion.com/WUCOMWEB...&pid=fraud0709
La misma historia con Money Gram.
De hecho tambien el mismo paypal desaconseja el uso de western union y money gram para compras.
Le sigo la corriente y digo que quiero la siguiente orden:
Full Shipping Details: 4 (four) iphone 3gS 32GB
Full Name: Julian, Franco Arteaga.
Country: Argentina
State: Neuquen
zipcode: 8300
Telephone number: +54 0299 - 154069647
Y el responde Full Name: Julian, Franco Arteaga.
Country: Argentina
State: Neuquen
zipcode: 8300
Telephone number: +54 0299 - 154069647
Hello julian,
Thanks for your swift response, wecreally appreciate that for your understanding and co-operation
we have proceed with the labelling and packaging of the items and you name and your address has being written on the items
so we are awaiting for your payment so that we can instruct the delivery company to proceed with the shipping .
so you are making the order of 4 iphones and we are giving you 1 free to make it 5 ok.
we want to establish along term business relationship with you , so kindly tell your friends about us ok.
Did you know how much the total cost for the phone is ?
kindly get back to us as soon as possible
Maxwell Bell
+447035938761
Depsues horas mas el me dice lo siguiente:Thanks for your swift response, wecreally appreciate that for your understanding and co-operation
we have proceed with the labelling and packaging of the items and you name and your address has being written on the items
so we are awaiting for your payment so that we can instruct the delivery company to proceed with the shipping .
so you are making the order of 4 iphones and we are giving you 1 free to make it 5 ok.
we want to establish along term business relationship with you , so kindly tell your friends about us ok.
Did you know how much the total cost for the phone is ?
kindly get back to us as soon as possible
Maxwell Bell
+447035938761
Hello julian ,
toal cost for the 4 (four) iphone 3gS 32GB cost the sum of $1450usd including
shipping to your door step ok.
so kindly tell us when you will be making the payment so that we can proceed with your shipment ok.
Thanks
Maxwell Bell
Entonces yo le dije que voy a pagar: toal cost for the 4 (four) iphone 3gS 32GB cost the sum of $1450usd including
shipping to your door step ok.
so kindly tell us when you will be making the payment so that we can proceed with your shipment ok.
Thanks
Maxwell Bell
today i will make the shippment, so i need to know how to pay...
Y el dice: Hello julian,
Thanks for your swift response, this is how you are going to make the transferv via western union , kindly go to any western union store tell them you want to send money to united kingdom and they will direct or help you ok.
This is the details you need to make the transfer ok.
First Name; Maxwell
Second Name ;Bell
State ; London
country ; United kingdom
Address; 12-14 sidcup united kingdom london
as soon as you make the transfer kindly get back to us with the scan copy for confirmation ok.
as soon as we confirm that you have make the transfer we ship out to you immdeiately and get back to you in 10 minutes with the tracking number ok.
The 5 iphone has being forwarded to the shipping company and they has parcel it awaiting for us to order them to ship out to you ok.
Thanks
Maxwell Bell
Hola Julián,
Gracias por su rápida respuesta, es cómo se va a hacer el transferv a través de Western Union, por favor ir a cualquier tienda de Western Union decirle que usted desea enviar dinero a Reino Unido y serán directa o ayudarle en Aceptar.
Esta es la información que necesita para hacer el bien transferencia.
Nombre; Maxwell
Segundo Nombre, Bell
Estado; Londres
país; Reino Unido
Dirección; 12-14 Sidcup london reino unido
tan pronto como se haga la transferencia amablemente volver a nosotros con copia para la exploración puede confirmación.
tan pronto como se confirme que ha hacer la transferencia que enviamos a usted immdeiately y en contacto con usted en 10 minutos con el número de seguimiento en Aceptar.
El 5 iPhone ha de ser remitido a la compañía naviera y que ha parcela que espera de nosotros para ordenar a los buques a usted ok.
Gracias
Maxwell Bell
Yo le respondo: Thanks for your swift response, this is how you are going to make the transferv via western union , kindly go to any western union store tell them you want to send money to united kingdom and they will direct or help you ok.
This is the details you need to make the transfer ok.
First Name; Maxwell
Second Name ;Bell
State ; London
country ; United kingdom
Address; 12-14 sidcup united kingdom london
as soon as you make the transfer kindly get back to us with the scan copy for confirmation ok.
as soon as we confirm that you have make the transfer we ship out to you immdeiately and get back to you in 10 minutes with the tracking number ok.
The 5 iphone has being forwarded to the shipping company and they has parcel it awaiting for us to order them to ship out to you ok.
Thanks
Maxwell Bell
Hola Julián,
Gracias por su rápida respuesta, es cómo se va a hacer el transferv a través de Western Union, por favor ir a cualquier tienda de Western Union decirle que usted desea enviar dinero a Reino Unido y serán directa o ayudarle en Aceptar.
Esta es la información que necesita para hacer el bien transferencia.
Nombre; Maxwell
Segundo Nombre, Bell
Estado; Londres
país; Reino Unido
Dirección; 12-14 Sidcup london reino unido
tan pronto como se haga la transferencia amablemente volver a nosotros con copia para la exploración puede confirmación.
tan pronto como se confirme que ha hacer la transferencia que enviamos a usted immdeiately y en contacto con usted en 10 minutos con el número de seguimiento en Aceptar.
El 5 iPhone ha de ser remitido a la compañía naviera y que ha parcela que espera de nosotros para ordenar a los buques a usted ok.
Gracias
Maxwell Bell
Hola, bueno ya tengo el dinero ($1450usd dolares), pero lo tengo en efectivo. Necesito saber como depositarlo en western union, si me pueden guiar en el proceso les estaria muy agradecido, les puedo facilitar mi mail o skype para que puedan guiarme en el proceso ya que no estoy familiarizado con el servicio. asimismo Quisiera que me proporcionaran una fotografia de las cajas en donde van a venir los 4 iphones asi la consigno a mi mandante, y una foto de los mismos para comprobar que sean los originales.
A la espera de su pronta respuesta, ya que necesito regalar un iphone para el cumpleaños de un familiar.
Atte.
Y con agua en la boca me dice: A la espera de su pronta respuesta, ya que necesito regalar un iphone para el cumpleaños de un familiar.
Atte.
Hello julian,
Thanks for your response , here is the photo of the 4 phone iphones and 1 in its factory box with all its accessories, remember i told you that am giving you 1 free to complete 5 iphones we are shipping out.
so kindly get back to us with the exact day you will be making the payment so that we can order the shipping company to ship out to you ok.
Thanks
Maxwell Bell
Hola Julián,
Gracias por su respuesta, aquí está la foto de los 4 iPhones y 1 teléfono en su caja de fábrica con todos sus accesorios, recuerde que te dije que estoy dando a usted 1 libre para completar 5 iPhones que se están enviando a cabo.
tan amablemente volver a nosotros con el día exacto en que se efectúe el pago de manera que podamos para la compañía naviera para enviar a usted bien.
Gracias
Maxwell Bell

Al otro dia me escribe esto, ningún vendedor hace esto, esto es motivo de mucha sospecha Thanks for your response , here is the photo of the 4 phone iphones and 1 in its factory box with all its accessories, remember i told you that am giving you 1 free to complete 5 iphones we are shipping out.
so kindly get back to us with the exact day you will be making the payment so that we can order the shipping company to ship out to you ok.
Thanks
Maxwell Bell
Hola Julián,
Gracias por su respuesta, aquí está la foto de los 4 iPhones y 1 teléfono en su caja de fábrica con todos sus accesorios, recuerde que te dije que estoy dando a usted 1 libre para completar 5 iPhones que se están enviando a cabo.
tan amablemente volver a nosotros con el día exacto en que se efectúe el pago de manera que podamos para la compañía naviera para enviar a usted bien.
Gracias
Maxwell Bell
ello julain,
i tried calling your number but it was not going ,please can you kindly get back to us with the corrcet numbe so we can communicated better on phone also ok.
i send you 2 difffernt type of photos , so kindly get back to us as soon as possible
kindly tell us when and the exact day you will be making the payment for the iphones sorry to ask because i have already instruct the shipping company to that before today and tommorrow they will shipped out the items ok.
Maxwell Bell
Hola julain,
Traté de llamar a su número, pero que no iba, por favor, ¿puede amablemente volver a nosotros con el Numbe corrcet para poder comunicarse mejor en el teléfono también puede.
yo os envío tipo 2 difffernt de fotos, tan amablemente volver a nosotros lo antes posible,
amabilidad de decirnos cuándo y el día exacto en que va a hacer el pago para el iPhone lamento que preguntar porque ya he encargar a la compañía naviera para que antes de hoy y mañana se entregará el bien elementos.
Maxwell Bell
Y yo le digo: i tried calling your number but it was not going ,please can you kindly get back to us with the corrcet numbe so we can communicated better on phone also ok.
i send you 2 difffernt type of photos , so kindly get back to us as soon as possible
kindly tell us when and the exact day you will be making the payment for the iphones sorry to ask because i have already instruct the shipping company to that before today and tommorrow they will shipped out the items ok.
Maxwell Bell
Hola julain,
Traté de llamar a su número, pero que no iba, por favor, ¿puede amablemente volver a nosotros con el Numbe corrcet para poder comunicarse mejor en el teléfono también puede.
yo os envío tipo 2 difffernt de fotos, tan amablemente volver a nosotros lo antes posible,
amabilidad de decirnos cuándo y el día exacto en que va a hacer el pago para el iPhone lamento que preguntar porque ya he encargar a la compañía naviera para que antes de hoy y mañana se entregará el bien elementos.
Maxwell Bell
My phone is +54 0299-154069647 is broken so i dont use often, that why im buying one iphone for me.
I need to know how to pay quickly, remember that in my country i cant use wester union or money gram, what i do??.
The best way i think is that you provide me with a bank account number so i can deposit you... bank to bank.
A friend is asking to buy 2 iphones more, that can be possible? you have stock?...
please answer quickly.
Me vuelve con lo mismo: I need to know how to pay quickly, remember that in my country i cant use wester union or money gram, what i do??.
The best way i think is that you provide me with a bank account number so i can deposit you... bank to bank.
A friend is asking to buy 2 iphones more, that can be possible? you have stock?...
please answer quickly.
Hello julian,
Thanks for your response , in Argentina there is western union all
over every where , the reason we proffered western union is because is
safe and reliable .
this is how you are going to make the payment via western union, go to
any western union boot or bank tell them that you want to make western
union transfer and they will direct you on how to make the transfer
ok.
last time you told us for 4 units and we have forward 4 units plus 1
free to the delivery company , am surprise when you said one ,please
tell us how many units you want to buy again .
your friend are also free to buy 2 more so we an ship theirs together
with your own ,so tell them when are they making the payment , if
possible both of you should make the payment together .i will ship
everything at once to you all .
kindly make the payment via western union for easy and online
confirmation so we an ship out to you immediately
Thanks for your response , in Argentina there is western union all
over every where , the reason we proffered western union is because is
safe and reliable .
this is how you are going to make the payment via western union, go to
any western union boot or bank tell them that you want to make western
union transfer and they will direct you on how to make the transfer
ok.
last time you told us for 4 units and we have forward 4 units plus 1
free to the delivery company , am surprise when you said one ,please
tell us how many units you want to buy again .
your friend are also free to buy 2 more so we an ship theirs together
with your own ,so tell them when are they making the payment , if
possible both of you should make the payment together .i will ship
everything at once to you all .
kindly make the payment via western union for easy and online
confirmation so we an ship out to you immediately
Yo digo entonces, con muchas ganas de saber que iba a hacer ahora:
I going to pay the four iphones, plus two more. Im already doing it right now. Can you please provide me with the photo of the total iphones you are going to send?.. the photo of the (six 6 iphones) please?.
See soon.
El a la hora me escribe: See soon.
Hello julian.,
thanks for your swift response, here is the photo of the iphone we have in stock now and the are shipping 7 to you , 5 for you and 2 for your friend , so do you know the total amount you are sending so that we can forward the remaining 2 phones to the Delivery company for shipment ok.
kindly get back to us with the scan copy after making the payment so can confirm online and authorized the delivery company to delivery to your door step ok.
Thanks
Maxwell
Con tranquilidad y seguridad le digo: thanks for your swift response, here is the photo of the iphone we have in stock now and the are shipping 7 to you , 5 for you and 2 for your friend , so do you know the total amount you are sending so that we can forward the remaining 2 phones to the Delivery company for shipment ok.
kindly get back to us with the scan copy after making the payment so can confirm online and authorized the delivery company to delivery to your door step ok.
Thanks
Maxwell
How much is it, so?
El me dice: Yours cost the sum of $1450usd while the 2 iphone cost 750usd including shippping to your door step ,
so if you are making the payment you kindly let us know so that we can be aware of it ok.
Thanks
pls when are you making the payment kindly tell us ok.
Finalmente la historia se empieza a poner mejor, a esta altura uno tiene q ser mas creativo, por lo que dije: so if you are making the payment you kindly let us know so that we can be aware of it ok.
Thanks
pls when are you making the payment kindly tell us ok.
ok, i am going right now to wester union to make the payment, also i will ask the last thing. in order to give you the number (MTCN) i first need to be sure how your iphone works, so if you can please send me a video of one iphone starting and working, and navigating your company webpage (to make sure that is your iphone and it work all ok). Then when i check that i provide us with the number to finish at once with the trade. Im very happy to deal with you, you are a very serius seller, and you have a very good attention!.
Y el me dice: Hello julain,
like i told you the iphone comes without any problem ok, this task you
are demanding for is a very stressful task ok, i guest once you get
the iphone you will do that in person ok.
so if you know you want to buy from us buy , i cannot tear the pack
of the iphone because it all ready sealed ok brand new, so if you
know you want to buy from us kindly make the payment .
I am assuring that the iphone is working perfectly ok, all the feature
are complete ok.
sorry for not doing that for now because its a long process for now
and i guest once it get to you with 48hrs you can do that
it also comes with 90days return policy incase of any damages ok
thanks
maxwell
Yo le tiro una BOMBA: like i told you the iphone comes without any problem ok, this task you
are demanding for is a very stressful task ok, i guest once you get
the iphone you will do that in person ok.
so if you know you want to buy from us buy , i cannot tear the pack
of the iphone because it all ready sealed ok brand new, so if you
know you want to buy from us kindly make the payment .
I am assuring that the iphone is working perfectly ok, all the feature
are complete ok.
sorry for not doing that for now because its a long process for now
and i guest once it get to you with 48hrs you can do that
it also comes with 90days return policy incase of any damages ok
thanks
maxwell
Sorry for the ask, of but at least can you provide with a video showing the boxes and something that shows that those boxes are from your store, because i cant verificate that the photos are the photos you take, so thats why i need a video, not a photo.... sorry for that but before this i need to be completly sure, is a large amount of money and i am a careful consumer.
Thanks for all, i hope we finish soon!
Y el adivinen que me dice?: Thanks for all, i hope we finish soon!
Hello julain ,
what you mean is that we did not have the iphone at our stock , why are you doubting me , we are legit company like i told already.
all the photo i send to you is all the photos of iphone we have in stock already taken down , you seems not believe us i hate that ok people who do not trust someone beause am a christain i will not do such rubbish thing ok.
i am assuring you once you make the payment we ship out to you immediately and get back to you with the tracking number ok.
so what you are demanding from us is not among our company policy ok. if you trust us believe us as we believe in you ok.
Thanks
No, mmm raro... raro....what you mean is that we did not have the iphone at our stock , why are you doubting me , we are legit company like i told already.
all the photo i send to you is all the photos of iphone we have in stock already taken down , you seems not believe us i hate that ok people who do not trust someone beause am a christain i will not do such rubbish thing ok.
i am assuring you once you make the payment we ship out to you immediately and get back to you with the tracking number ok.
so what you are demanding from us is not among our company policy ok. if you trust us believe us as we believe in you ok.
Thanks
Bueeeno :roll: , entonces le digo:
ok, so a video showing the boxes is enough, im christian too but i need to be sure. once you show me the boxes with videos i make the payment.
Thank you for understanding.
Y adivinen que me dice?:Thank you for understanding.
julain i know the amount is large , but i want you to know and believe that you are dealing with a legit company ok, so if you are not annoyed with us we can proceed with the shipment as we both agree ok.
Thnaks
Maxwell Bell
Bueeeno :roll: , me hice el caliente y le puse: Thnaks
Maxwell Bell
But why you cant provide me with a video?... sorry but i cant proceed, i need the iphones urgently. i will have to look for somone else.
El contesta desesperado: hello the image will not be as sharp but i will be transfering throught bluetooth and should i use a background or not
kindly get back to us as soon as possible
Luego: kindly get back to us as soon as possible
i will provide you with the video ok , is just that i have to get a digital camera and snap a nice shot and send it to you ok.
y mas luego: MI TROFEOOO!!!! :P i have rush and taking a pix with the iphone ok. but i was not able to capture it properly because of rushing ok.
here is the photo of the iphones i took with phones as you can see the image is not as sharp as digital camera because it from my personal phones ok.
just to prove to you and if you did not believe me then you are free to look for someone else because i have told you the gospel truth and nothing but the truth ok.
we await your resposonse as soon as possible

Maxwell
Ahora le doy toda la informacion, y supuetamente fui a pagar:here is the photo of the iphones i took with phones as you can see the image is not as sharp as digital camera because it from my personal phones ok.
just to prove to you and if you did not believe me then you are free to look for someone else because i have told you the gospel truth and nothing but the truth ok.
we await your resposonse as soon as possible
Maxwell
ok i make the payment...
Info:
San Palermo Salvoargentina
Cashier: Esteban Quito
1. Name and address of sender: Armando Unfasoleti
2. Amount sent: u$s 2200
3. Control number (MTCN): S/N-00168-3339-152278-8JAR
4. Country from which payment was made: Argentina
5. Test question and answer if any:
Question = Favorite band
Answer = Wendy Sulca
Thanks for all...and sorry for no response quick, having connection problems.
me responde al rato Info:
San Palermo Salvoargentina
Cashier: Esteban Quito
1. Name and address of sender: Armando Unfasoleti
2. Amount sent: u$s 2200
3. Control number (MTCN): S/N-00168-3339-152278-8JAR
4. Country from which payment was made: Argentina
5. Test question and answer if any:
Question = Favorite band
Answer = Wendy Sulca
Thanks for all...and sorry for no response quick, having connection problems.
Send us the scan copy of the payment details now...
Yo no le conteste y el al otro dia, parece que chequeo, pregunto y etcetereteo por internet o en las oficinas si tenia depositado ese monto y me contesta: Hello julain,
you should have told us that you are playing with us ,i know from the very first day that you are taking us for granted , julian you have being fooling us is very bad ok.
you should have tell us that you are not interested than you taking us for granted it is very bad of you
you forged everything and send it to us that you have make the payment we are not kind ok , i am 31 years of age and i don;t toy with any body am always serious ok.
my yes is yes and my no i no
Thnaks
maxwell
Yo digo: you should have told us that you are playing with us ,i know from the very first day that you are taking us for granted , julian you have being fooling us is very bad ok.
you should have tell us that you are not interested than you taking us for granted it is very bad of you
you forged everything and send it to us that you have make the payment we are not kind ok , i am 31 years of age and i don;t toy with any body am always serious ok.
my yes is yes and my no i no
Thnaks
maxwell
Hello i give you all the details, i dont know why you talk at me like this, however i contact a person in UK searching the web who help me with the payment because i dont understand much of this, he will transfer now to you via wester union as you say but he need where to pay or something like that i dont know exactly, his mail is
Wayne Adams <plasmaclimited@googlemail.com>.
Entonces lo contacto con otro scammer (que le hice lo mismo) de internet que se ocupa de engañar a la gente para hacerle creer que vende cosas.Wayne Adams <plasmaclimited@googlemail.com>.
julian,
now i know you are just fooling your self ok and not me ok. am highly disappointed in you , i guest you did not have the money for the items that is why you are fooling your self around ok.
if you want to buy, then buy if you are not buying kindly stop fooling your self ok.
Thanks
Maxwell Bell
Y yo finalmente puse (y no viene al caso): now i know you are just fooling your self ok and not me ok. am highly disappointed in you , i guest you did not have the money for the items that is why you are fooling your self around ok.
if you want to buy, then buy if you are not buying kindly stop fooling your self ok.
Thanks
Maxwell Bell
Ok, thats all, i dont going to tolerate that you speak to me like that, i do a lot ir onrder to have the iphones that you dont want to send me. i put in contact with the person encharged with this because im tired with the mails, so if you dont want to sell it, dont sellit and i will have my money back. yestarday i saty all day in the phone and mailing with this guy, trying to consignate the money to you...
so im tired now, or give the iphones or not but i hope i will speak with your boss and tell him that this transactios was ruined by you, not me.
5 dias mas tarde me mandan este mail:so im tired now, or give the iphones or not but i hope i will speak with your boss and tell him that this transactios was ruined by you, not me.
Hello julian,
we are very sorry to inform you that the 5 iphones has been returned back to the sender / company due to lack of payment .
we are very sorry for the inconvenience
you are advice to contact the sender for better explanation
Thanks
Atoye gabriel
shipping officer
we are very sorry to inform you that the 5 iphones has been returned back to the sender / company due to lack of payment .
we are very sorry for the inconvenience
you are advice to contact the sender for better explanation
Thanks
Atoye gabriel
shipping officer
Me hice el boludo y me canse de jugar con ellos... por el momento :F
Editado por julian22 - 13.10.2009 23:10 hs.
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